Couples and Money and Communication, oh my!

By , 1 March, 2010, 11 Comments

In the spirit of talking about things other people don’t talk about openly, but at times desperately want to or should, I’d like to share a little something about an exercise my husband and I are doing to be better communicators and build a stronger marriage, specifically as it pertains to MONEY.

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My hubs and I, a.k.a. Chad, have been married for a little more than one year and have been together for almost seven (wow). We communicate beautifully in most areas, but like many couples out there money is not our simplest issue to explore. We have different experiences with money (as everyone does). These experiences helped to develop our value systems and behavior patterns with money, which inevitably are also different. Sound familiar? Well, it’s usually the reality of most couples and people out there in some regard.

We’ve had our fair share of money arguments along the way, but managed to come to a decent understanding before we were married. We knew we had further work to do, but hadn’t found the magic potion on our own just yet. We interviewed other couples, our parents, chatted about it during premarital couples counseling and talked about possible money management methods and systems in private at home. Despite all of these efforts, the doing something piece, the taking ACTION piece wasn’t falling into place.

So… for Christmas we decided the best gift to give each other was a money class we’d both heard amazing things about over the years called ‘Couples and Money,’ taught by nationally known financial educator, expert and author Ruth Hayden.

We went to our first of five classes last Monday and I gotta say I’m really looking forward to the next four.  The following are my takeaways so far:

  • One of the first things mentioned in class was: It is socially and politically incorrect to talk about money. In our culture. In our relationships. And consequently in our families. Well, no wonder money is hard to discuss!!! It’s kind of a no brainer and really a huge relief when you think about it this way. Our societal and cultural framework doesn’t have the ‘let’s talk about money like sane, rational and open adults’ built into it in a healthy way. In essence, it’s embedded as a natural dysfunction in our cultural and relational fabric.
  • The purpose of this class is to make us a better management team; It’s about learning and being in partnership with money. It was explained that there are two parts to money: Counting and Managing. Counting is ability to know how much you make, how much you need, budgeting, etc. The management piece includes how you make it work, how you make decisions, how you and money coexist, etc. (after you’ve counted the money). Many couples think that if they count it and the numbers ad up that that’s most of the battle. There is much more.

  • Class is about DIALOGUE and INTROSPECTION. I find personal reflection to be one of life’s most important, and often most difficult things. I’m a big advocate for Emotional Intelligence and its importance in the bigger picture. It is my experience that when I take inventory of my stuff, my interactions with the rest of the world are far simpler. This class is no different. This class will challenge both of us to take a hard look at our part in how we view and interact with money — and then we will come together to discuss it. When thought about in this way it makes a lot of sense, doesn’t it? I know that in past discussions about money I walk in thinking I’m right, which sets the discussion up to fail because I haven’t really dug deeper. I hope that makes sense.

  • People don’t change unless they have to. Then they change just enough to get out of crisis. Love this because of the truth in it. Won’t get into it too much, but obviously the goal of this class is to change the necessary behaviors around money so we can be in better partnership with it and our mates.

I look forward to sharing more about what we learn and how it helps us navigate through developing better communication and a  strong financial partnership for a successful future! As always, I love to hear your experience or thoughts if applicable:-).

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  • http://twitter.com/lulugrimm Lisa Grimm

    Jim – Thanks so much for stopping by and sharing. It's so nice to get a number of perspectives on partnership: money, generally and otherwise. In my opinion, important issues such as these aren't really discussed enough where it counts. Everyone goes through it, so why not put some of it out there? Your system sounds good. I look forward to finding our good mix:-) Keep you posted. Hope all is well.

  • http://JimRaffel.com/ Jim Raffel

    Lisa – Hats off to you and your Husband for dealing with this early. It's taken my wife and I nearly 20 years of marriage to get the money part “right.” It's simple she's 100% in charge of the counting and budgeting I'm just not that good at it and she is amazing.

    My part is the managing and investing – I have a gut instinct for putting what we have in the right places to maximize our return. Now that she counts it and keeps track of it (vs Mr. let's spend it 'cause we have it being in charge of that part) we actually are making some real progress.

    It's also been helpful for us to examine all aspects of our married life in the same way. We both have strengths and whenever possible we divided labor to play to the strengths. Sounds simple but in our family that means we are both doing non-traditional things (I do the laundry for example and she cuts the lawn – ya I know ;) )

    Have a great day!

    Jim

  • http://twitter.com/lulugrimm Lisa Grimm

    Heather – Thanks :-) Likewise on perspective. There is more to come. Our exercise for this week will be most interesting. Glad you enjoyed and I look forward to writing the next post…

  • http://martyrdomsucks.blogspot.com/ Heather Binning

    Lisa, This is a wonderful post and I look forward to reading more about your class and introspection findings. Always great to hear your perspective. I admire you a lot.

  • http://twitter.com/lulugrimm Lisa Grimm

    Gary – Yes, it is funny and fascinating, considering we can go there:-) It is through some serious introspection that I've found out some of the most amazing things about life, people and everything in between, so I keep doing it :-) Thanks for your observation.

  • garyhart

    Isn't it funny how the subjects “we are not supposed to talk about” are the tidy packages our greatest difficulties hide within?

    Facing and challenging your weaknesses are foundational to character, integrity, self-improvement, and leadership. Thank you for being you and exposing yourself for the benefit of others.

  • http://twitter.com/lulugrimm Lisa Grimm

    Kasey – Thank you! You know this goes both ways:-) I completely agree with you and came to the conclusion, with your help, that not talking about some of these integral components of communication in my life here just wouldn't make sense:-)

  • kmskala

    You know I think the world of you from a PR/SM standpoint. But the real reason I interact with you is because you're thinking and personality goes so much deeper than the average professional. This post is a great example.

    We preach about building brands, sharing their story and effectively communicating on their behalf. But what about our personal interactions? How do we communicate outside the business world? Communication doesn't start and stop inside the office between the hours of 8-5.

    You have a lot of depth, lady! I look forward to hearing more about your adventure.

  • http:twitter.com/lulugrimm lulugrimm

    Kasey – Thank you! You know this goes both ways:-) I completely agree with you and came to the conclusion, with your help, that not talking about some of these integral components of communication in my life here just wouldn’t make sense:-)

  • http://twitter.com/lulugrimm Lisa Grimm

    Annie – It's pretty amazing. I've been hearing about it for years. She also teaches a 'Women and Money' class you may want to check out (click the link in the post to her site). A gal in my class has taken her other classes and now back for this one. She couldn't say enough about the benefit. Money is such an important part of life in many respects. I think our views and behaviors dictate and affect many other facets of life, so attention should be paid. Glad you liked:-)

  • Annie Fahrenkamp

    Wow….I would love to take this class. Thank you for posting. “People change just enough to get out of crisis” So brilliant. That is so true. Also, than you for getting a little personal.